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 Post subject: Question about Web rips vs hdtv rips
PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:41 pm 
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How come HDTV rips have better quality than Web rips?
I come from the mp3 scene so I don't know anything about video encoding but it would seem to me like web rips which come directly from the source would have 1:1 quality whereas tv recorded videos would present at least some kind of loss of information.
I ask this simply out of curiosity, all rips are great so far :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Question about Web rips vs hdtv rips
PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:59 pm 
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Hi there :)

HDTV is a recording from a HD broadcast. The quality is usually very close to the broadcast quality. Typically the quality is quite good.

WEB-DL is a web downloaded copy from an internet online streaming service with the quality same as the streamed one. Sometimes you just see WEB and that is usually same as WEB-DL.

WEBRip is usually a re-encoded version of the WED-DL.

The main reason the HDTV release sometimes "looks better" is usually the FPS being 50 or 60 instead of 25 which is the typical FPS of a WEB-DL.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:51 pm 
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Look I watch these on my computer, I have one of those Eizo badass monitors and I use the Madshi video renderer with possibly the most potent algorithms, and I would swear it's not just the framerate, it's as if mostly the HUD but also everything else looks a little more pixelated at times. I don't know, maybe it's just me XD
Anyway, thanks.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 5:41 pm 
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Yes that is perfectly possible. The broadcast in HD quality might be higher quality then the web version.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 9:52 pm 
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web-dl is normally alot lower bitrate aswell, with a HDTV rip you can record at any bitrate you want, web-dl you are limited by the source, webrip is a screen cap of a stream.

HDTV is also 50 or 60 fps, webdl normally 25 or 30

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2021 11:22 am 
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energyboost wrote:
web-dl is normally alot lower bitrate aswell, with a HDTV rip you can record at any bitrate you want


Oh yeah true, the bitrate is essential. I forgot to mention that.

If the release has a description with quality information you can look for the bitrate and fps to get an idea of the quality.

Code:
UFC.Fight.Night.Vettori.vs.Holland.1080p.HDTV.x264-VERUM
Resolution: 1920x1080
Video: 7 850 kb/s
Audio: MPEG Audio
Duration: 2 h 58 min
FPS: 50.000 fps
Filesize: 9.78 GiB


Code:
[EVENT]: UFC.Fight.Night.Vettori.vs.Holland.1080p.WEB-DL.H264.Fight-BB
[SIZE]: 8.65 GB
[CONTAINER]: mp4
[RESOLUTION]: 1920 x 1080 @ 29.970 FPS
[VIDEO]: H264 @ 5931 Kbps
[AUDIO]: AAC @ 128 kbps


In the examples above the HDTV release has a bitrate of 7850 and 50 FPS while the WEB-DL release has a bitrate of 5931 and 29.97 FPS.

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