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Post subject: Re: [SPOILERS] UFC 111 - St. Pierre vs. Hardy Discussion  Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:44 pm |
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Post subject: Re: [SPOILERS] UFC 111 - St. Pierre vs. Hardy Discussion Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:57 pm |
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PS on the heel hook issue, Palhares did hold it in too long - but it was nowhere near as long as they made it out on the broadcast......Joe Rogan counted in seconds how long he held it.....during a slow mo replay... duh!
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Post subject: Re: [SPOILERS] UFC 111 - St. Pierre vs. Hardy Discussion Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:04 pm |
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If you think a RNC should be banned, based off of the description I gave of "not having enough time to tap out before real damage is done", then you don't understand the concept of a rear naked choke. At this point, you're just trying to start a fight.
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Post subject: Re: [SPOILERS] UFC 111 - St. Pierre vs. Hardy Discussion Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:12 pm |
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Post subject: Re: [SPOILERS] UFC 111 - St. Pierre vs. Hardy Discussion Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:48 pm |
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Post subject: Re: [SPOILERS] UFC 111 - St. Pierre vs. Hardy Discussion Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 11:52 pm |
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Post subject: Re: [SPOILERS] UFC 111 - St. Pierre vs. Hardy Discussion Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:30 am |
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First of all stop calling each other names, this is a normal discussion between adults and thus act like one please.
All sports have their faults and injuries. Sure you can try to reduce them by creating rules but MMA is about fighting and you can be submitted in a way that can be bad for your career but you can also be hit by someone that forces you out of the game for a long time or maybe forever.
Especially in extreme sports like this you know that you have a risk. It is however up to the fighter(s), referee, ring doctor and even the corner to decide how far they can let it go.
In football it also happens often that a leg, knee, ankle etc gets hurt/broken. Do we then have to say no more tackles or blocks? The answer is no, but when a tackle is made that can cause an injury or did cause an injury then that player should get suspended.
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Post subject: Re: [SPOILERS] UFC 111 - St. Pierre vs. Hardy Discussion Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:37 am |
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Thanks Foxy, but Im dealing with this.
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Post subject: Re: [SPOILERS] UFC 111 - St. Pierre vs. Hardy Discussion Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:50 am |
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Post subject: Re: [SPOILERS] UFC 111 - St. Pierre vs. Hardy Discussion Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:38 pm |
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@PMBR:
If Kevin Mulhall stopped that GSP vs. Hardy title fight without the fighter tapping, or him being injured the crowd would of went crazy and I would want him sacked. Hardy's arm was only extended for about 5 seconds during the arm-bar and the Kimura as mentioned earlier was sloppy.
Some fighters have high resistance to pain and excellent flexibility in their joints (BJ Penn for example).
IMO if the fighter doesn’t tap, you should snap their limb.
Its up to the referee to stop the fight when the fighter CANT defend themselves. If the fighters arm is still intact they ARE able to defend themselves. Also it opens up a bag of worms. How will referees know when a fighter is refusing to tap, its just bad technique being applied or the fighter has a higher than normal pain resistance.
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